A. No one knows for sure, but it appears to me that it is important that the bottle or water (or other liquid) be completely surrounded by a cylinder of magnetite sand or powder for at least 85% to 90% of its height (that is, the height of the water or liquid in the bottle) and that the cylinder of magnetite sand/mixture be at least 0.8 inches (at a minimum) to 1.5 inches thick (i.e., forming a shell of magnetite powder at least 1.5" thick in all directions around the radius of the bottle.) While I do own and use a  number of the cardboard oatmeal can versions of the MEOW kettles which empIoy a cylinder of magnetite with a radial thickness of only 0.92 inches (in other words, just under one inch), I personally prefer a larger mass of magnetite and a larger radial thickness of magnetite sand, more on the order of 1.2 inches or greater. Some of my plastic designs for the MEOW kettles, in addition to offering a far more robust and sturdy construction, offer a cylindrical shell of magnetite measuring from 1.2" to 1.47" in radial thickness. At some point, the increase in effectiveness starts to drop in proportion to increases in the thickness and mass of the magnetite mixture surrounding the inner cylinder, and the returns become smaller and smaller past a certain point. For a device designed to treat a bottle containing from 20 to 25 ounces of water, the point of diminished returns is likely reached at a radial thickness of about 1.5 inches. While any increase in radial thickness of the magnetite sand beyond this 1.5 inch limit will still result in further increases, the relatively small increment of improvement rendered by such an increase must be weighed against the increased costs in constructing the shell, increased costs for magnetite sand, and increased total weight of the resultant MEOW kettle.

Q. I have heard from five different friends from all over the USA all kinds of wonderful stories about the effects of the magnetite-treated "ormus water", but I have never had the interest to order magnetite sand, or to build a device. However, about a month ago, a friend who works at a university gave me about ten pounds of magnetite rock chunks, bagged in ziplock bags, left over from when they were cleaning out their mineral storeroom. I have not bothered to build a device of the type you guys talk about, but I have stacked a couple of the bags of magnetite around a bottle of spring water for a couple of days, and gee, I do not notice any kind of effects from drinking this water for a couple of days. What gives?

A. Yours is not the first tale I have heard in this vein; each tale was quite similar to the other. My response to these tales is quite multi-faceted, so please bear with me; here goes, in list format:

• first, you have not told me much about these magnetite samples which your friend gave you, likely because you do not have any more detailed information at this time. This, however, drastically limits my potential to respond, since I know so little about your situation.
  
  
• you mention that the bags contained what you were told is "magnetite rock chunks". Are you sure of this? Have you checked the material with a magnet to see if it exhibits strong ferromagnetic or paramagnetic response? 
  
  
• I would love to know the relative purity of the material -- many rock samples will contain from 20% to 60% magnetite, or even a smaller proportion of magnetite, and will nonetheless be labeled as magnetite by some vendors and researchers. 
  
  
• Assuming for the moment -- although it is a rather unrealistic assumption -- that the material may indeed be high-quality magnetite, we know nothing at all about the presence or quantity of other trace elements, such as rare earths, transition elements, noble metals, or the ormus forms of elements in these samples which you possess.
  
  
• You mention that the material is in chunk form, as in "chunks of rock". The chunk size may well affect performance. Many of us feel that a small particle size, on the order of a sand or coarse powder, is likely the optimal particle size, due to greater effective reluctance and distribution of magnetic reluctance across space in a homogenous, coherent and contiguous fashion.
  
  
• Most of us in this field feel that stacking a few bags of loose chunks against a bottle of spring water is a far from optimal design for treating water; far better, if you really wish to play with this technology, to spend the time to assemble a device which resembles a configuration similar to that which we have been discussing, where the magnetite material forms a thick and continuous and contiguous shell around the water bottle in the horizontal plane (i.e., perpendicular to the axis of the bottle) in a radial direction.
  
  
• You state that you do not notice any effects from drinking the water for a few days. I am curious: what type of effects were you looking for, and what type of effects would you expect to emerge so quickly as to be very obvious in a "couple of days" (your words...)? Most of us in this field feel that any effects are rather subtle and might not be noticed until after perhaps 2 to 4 months of drinking at least one bottle of 3-day MEOW water (treated in a traditional-design device). Nonetheless, you expected to see noticeable results in a couple of days using water treated in your admittedly makeshift and haphazardly-assembled device! Amazing!

Q: Where does the "energy" that produces the ormus effects in MEOW water come from and what kind of energy is it?

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Glossary of Terms and Related Notes
First, lets cover some glossary-related matters before we proceed. When I use the term "orgone energy", I mean the same rather slow and almost "glob-like" subtle energy which Wilhelm Reich worked with and attempted to define. And this is the same subtle energy which I and others often reference as "aetheric energy". The latter term could be a bit tricky at times for some readers, because it is my observation that there exist at least 30 different types of subtle energies or exotic energies (i.e., fields other than those found in the classical Hertzian and Maxwellian electromagnetic spectrum) and technically, it is true that almost all of them propagate through the aether, but, in order to conform with 50 years of convention, when I use the term aetheric energy, I am referencing ONLY classical orgone energy. Of the thirty-plus exotic energies which I mentioned above, some seem to travel at the speed of light, a good number seem to propagate at faster-than-light (aka FTL) speeds, and a very few travel at slower than light speeds. And, all researchers in the orgone/aetheric energy field, including myself, agree that orgone energy travels very slowly in most cases and situations within our time-space world. In fact, it is about the slowest (in terms of propagation speed) of all the exotic energies; it is so slow that I often reference it as "glob-like" or "glue-like". So, whenever you see the terms orgone energy or aetheric energy in my papers, I am referring solely to classical orgone energy.

Okay, On to the Mechanism of MEOW Kettles
It is my belief that what is happening in MEOW kettles is that the magnetite and some other ormus-rich compounds are acting to allow an FTL (faster-than- light) energy to "translate" in the water (and in the sand mix as well) manifesting as the emergence as thousands of pinpoints of light per second in the water; these tiny white pinpoints of light become what I will reference as very "fine" ormus particles, aka very subtle ormus particles, which are sometimes referenced as proto-matter. In fact, even at the intuitive level, it is often rather hard to determine which element is present in the proto-matter, as it is yet still so undifferentiated and so vague, and still behaving much more like energy than matter. My sense is that these proto-elements, if and when they evolve further into "dense matter" of the earthly realm, will largely become members of the rather large family of transition elements. It is these fuzzy energy properties which we call ormus properties, and which seem to impart to MEOW water the beneficial nutritional supplement effects which we see. Incidentally, when I mention above the thousands of pinpoints of white light emerging each second into the water, this is a vision which I have been shown repeatedly on an inner level, and after I shared that vision during my 2007 lecture on the international alchemy conference call, I was, over the following week, contacted by several scientists and researchers in the ormus realm, who excitedly told me that the vision that I had described exactly matched what they had been shown on an inner level as well regarding the mechanism of MEOW kettles and some similar technologies.

So, to my best knowledge, and to the best knowledge of most of the colleagues with whom I work in this field, the MEOW effect is NOT at all due to orgone energy (aka aetheric energy) and is rather due to an FTL energy which is somehow intercepted by the magnetite and some of the other ormus compounds present in the sand, which then focuses it somewhat on the water, where the fuzzy proto-matter the emerges as/from tiny pinpoints of light. It is also worth pausing here to say that while some authors in the field of MEOW water have, at times, tended to call it "magnetic water" or "vortex water" or "magnetic vortex water", and have stated that they believe that the magnetite intercepts the earth's magnetic field, forming a "magnetic vortex" in the water. Personally, these descriptions do not ring true for me on an inner level; I do NOT sense any magnetic vortexes at work, and, as I have stated elsewhere, I also do not feel that the effect of magnetite upon water in a MEOW kettle is even primarily due to the ferromagnetic properties (i.e., their "magnetism", to use the vernacular) of the magnetite particles. I note also that several of my colleagues in the MEOW field share the same sense that I have about the MEOW processes as stated above.

Q: I've been drinking magnetite water for a long time and do the solarized treatment now too. Whether solarized or plain I find that the magnetite water causes me to be very tired a couple of hours after drinking it. I've tested as to whether it is the water or something else by skipping a day. On the days I don't drink it, I have clear thinking and normal energy. Has anyone else had tired feelings from drinking the magnetite treated water?

A: First, I have rarely, if ever, heard of fatigue as a cleansing or detox symptom when ingesting MEOW water, at least not for more than a few days or a few weeks at most. It is very well-known in the ormus world that drinking MEOW water can lead to temporary and transient (lasting at most perhaps a few weeks) tissue cleansing or detoxification symptoms, sometimes called a "healing crisis", and these symptoms may often include fatigue and need for increased sleep. Much the same detox symptoms are often encountered when first starting to ingest many other ormus products, and also with certain kinds of energy healing and energy bodywork, with some types of acupuncture, and with complex homeopathy. However, if your fatigue is lasting more than a few weeks, then it is less likely (but not impossible) that this is a temporary detox symptom.

Some of the other possibilities may be as follows:

• MEOW water, when ingested as an ormus-like nutritional supplement, often helps folks to become more grounded and "planted" in their bodies, and to better listen to their bodies and their bodily needs (that is, needs which help to ensure greater levels of health and vitality.) Thus, if your body has accumulated, over the years, a massive sleep deficit, perhaps from too many years of living life in the fast lane or being too manic in terms of activities, you may be seeing -- as a result of the ingestion of the MEOW water and due to its resultant effects in promoting deeper awareness of the body and of its needs -- an emergence or expression of your body's long-repressed need for sleep. This is often encountered in the early stages of ingesting certain powerful ormus-like supplements, and also when first starting to meditate, particularly in heart-centered meditation traditions, and sometimes emerges when folks first start out on a raw Paleolithic diet. Such a sleep deficit, if present, may take from a few months to six or eight years to resolve.
  
  
• It is possible that your body is deeply resonating with the effects of the MEOW water when taken as a nutritional supplement, and, if your body has a lot of deep healing to do, you may experience fatigue for anywhere from a few months to a few years. This is sometimes seen when first starting heart-centered meditation and when starting on raw Paleo diets, or when ingesting very powerful ormus-like supplements. And, this long-term healing is rather different from so-called "detoxification" or "cleansing" in that this is NOT primarily about cleansing/detox, and this fatigue due to deep healing also tends to last longer.
  
  
• Perhaps there is something very idiosyncratic about the way in which your body responds to MEOW water, and it simply gets tired due to relative over-nutrition with some trace ormus-like nutrient found in the water.
  
  
• Perhaps there is something very odd and unusual about the particular batch of magnetite sand which you used in your MEOW kettle, and perhaps it is having adverse effects. You may wish to try using an entirely different batch of magnetite in a MEOW kettle and observe the effects of drinking the water. I heard recently of a woman in a large city in Colorado who had been hand-harvesting her own magnetite sand from the bottom of a nearby polluted urban river, and she began reporting all sorts of adverse effects from the water from her MEOW kettles which employed this sand. Later, when she switched to using a different magnetite sand from a pristine area, she started experiencing beneficial effects from the water from her MEOW kettles, and she realized that her original batch of river-harvested magnetite sand had been contaminated or "polluted".
  
  
• Perhaps you have inadvertently placed your MEOW kettle within three feet of an electrical or electronic appliance, such as a pump motor, refrigerator, electric stove, microwave oven, appliance, portable phone base, PC or other device. It is well-known that placing a MEOW kettle too close to such devices will allow the water to be "modulated" with undesirable noisy subtle energies, and these may be causing problems for your body.
  
  
• Perhaps there are some very odd contaminants in your water supply; it is widely claimed that MEOW kettle treatment can "potentize" trace substances, including pollutants, found in water treated in the kettle.

Hope this helps!